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Georgiev trade could be a blockbuster deal

We are now approaching the third trade deadline since “The Letter” was sent out to Rangers fans about rebuilding. The Rangers are not approaching this one as the last two in which they were clearly sellers. No this one has a different feel and I wrote about that last weekend. Jeff Gorton is simply put going to a major player at the deadline and isn’t just looking to stockpile more draft picks.

READ: The Rangers will be players at the deadline

Understanding the Situation

John Davidson knows where the Rangers are this season. They are at the crossroads of their rebuild with a commitment to stay the course. That means continuing to develop the talent they have and retool this lineup with those players. We are seeing it now with the promotion of Igor Shesterkin and the ice time given to Kaapo Kakko. Knowing full well Vitali Kravtsov is going to play this season on Broadway, this team is getting younger and improving.

Waiting in the wings are also two surefire blue liners in Nils Lundkvist and K’Andre Miller. That means Davidson and GM Jeff Gorton have to make room for them and ensure the best lineup heading into next season. It’s important because not making the playoffs could have job ramifications for David Quinn in 2021.

Georgiev (Photo: Anthony J. Causi)

Blockbuster Trade?

There has been a lot of talk about Rangers goalie, Alexander Georgiev. Several teams are interested and Jeff Gorton was mentioned to be looking for an NHL ready prospect, but that was in a straight up deal. Rumor rumblings from two credible sources indicate that Georgiev could be part of a larger deal. At the moment what isn’t clear is just how big, and what teams could be involved.

This may be why the Rangers haven’t rushed to pull the trigger on a trade here. And the one team that keeps coming up in conversations for Georgiev are the Toronto Maple Leafs. Of course, they have a #1 goalie so giving anything of consequence to solidify the backup position doesn’t make sense. That’s why the idea of a blockbuster trade is growing.

A Deal with the Leafs

Recently, Rachel Doerrie wrote a great piece at Leafs Nation discussing all the ins and outs of a potential Toronto trade for Georgiev. Logically the Leafs are so deep at forward it makes sense they could dip in to that pool to help the Rangers who can use it. Two players mentioned are Andreas Johansson and my personal choice, Kasperi Kapanen.

The Leafs will need to sign Georgiev who is an RFA this summer, and that will cost them anywhere between 1.5 to 2 million on a bridge deal. Kapanen is signed for another two seasons at $3.2M AAV when he becomes an RFA. So money wise it works. However, the Leafs aren’t trading Kapanen for a backup and that’s why this deal will need to grow.

Rachel makes the logical inclusion of Lias Andersson, but the Leafs have cap problems to solve on the blue line for next season with little room to play with. What happens if Brady Skjei becomes part of this deal and the Leafs get a cost controlled defenseman at 5.25M? Does that improve on the player the Leafs send back? Or does it add UFA to be Tyson Barrie to the mix? The bottom line is that the expectation of trading Georgiev for a pick/prospect is becoming more and more distant in the rear view mirror.

Stick with us as we expect this to be the biggest trade deadline in recent memory for the New York Rangers. Our coverage during last season’s deadline and free agent frenzy was second to none. It’s going to only get better.

22 thoughts on “Georgiev trade could be a blockbuster deal

  • January 16, 2020 at 12:35 pm
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    How ‘bout no! They just got Trouba to play with his lifelong pal Skjei! How bout 30, Lias, Kreider for a Finn to play with Kakko + another F

  • January 16, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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    I hope your coverage gets better.

    Right now when youre not working feverishly to ignore the Hank story, you’re citing a completely made up Georgiev trade scenario from Leafs Nation LOL!!!

    BTW, did you see Rick Carpiniello, who’s been covering the Rangers as long – and let’s say at least as solidly as anyone – said the Rangers have a big decision coming on DeAngelo – and Henrik Lundqvist? Hmmmm….

    • January 16, 2020 at 2:14 pm
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      In which article did Carp say this…… because he has stated numerous times he believes Georgie will be the heir apparent not Shesteryn but Georgie would have higher trade value. He has also stated numerous times and recently as well Georgie or Shestery would be the starter next year with Hank the backup. So which article did Carp say the Rangers have a big decision regarding Hank?

      Dec 26th 2019

      4. Alexandar will be great … and cause a problem

      Alexandar Georgiev is going to further establish himself as an NHL No. 1, or 1A, goaltender.

      And what that does is complicate things.

      Great problem to have, but then that means fewer starts for Lundqvist this year, and a difficult decision to make when Lundqvist enters the final season of his contract at age 38 next season and when Igor Shesterkin shows he’s NHL-ready late this season in Hartford or in camp next season.

      I think, ultimately, Georgiev or Shesterkin is traded and the survivor is backed up by Adam Huska (or Olof Lindbom) when Lundqvist retires.

      Revisited: Georgiev has done nothing to change that expectation. He has outplayed Lundqvist, as he did for the second half of last year, and he is making the Rangers’ difficult decision more difficult. I’ve written this a lot lately, but do not be surprised at all if Georgiev ends up the heir to Lundqvist and not Shesterkin. The problem with that, of course, is that the trade value of Shesterkin isn’t likely high and won’t be until he plays some NHL games. Likewise, Georgiev would have value on the market, but probably not at this point the type of value that will bring back a haul. I don’t think the Rangers could get more than a second-rounder (plus) for Georgiev right now. I don’t think they would trade him for that.

      I still think, ultimately, either Georgiev or Shesterkin is here teaming with Lundqvist next season, but not both. And Lundqvist will be here. So …

      Jan 14, 2020

      Odd indeed. Quinn said after Monday’s game, the front office and coaches will sit down and try to sort out a plan. But it’s not as if there is no plan. It’s just that they knew the situation was unavoidable, with Shesterkin earning a chance to play in the NHL with his spectacular half-season in the AHL — and with an escape clause that would allow him to go home to Russia if he felt buried in Hartford.

      I love the notion it caught the Rangers by surprise, or they didn’t think it would be a problem. In fact, I had heard they were going this way — and wrote about it — in November. It was an inevitability, even though the organization knew the situation would be less than ideal.

      I love, too, all the “news” the Rangers are listening to offers for Georgiev. Of course they are. They have been listening for a little while. They understand it can possibly go into the offseason, even though that’s not ideal, but it can’t go into next season. They shouldn’t be, and are not, in a hurry to make a bad deal for Georgiev.

      All taken from his pieces on The Athletic….

    • January 16, 2020 at 3:57 pm
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      When exactly did Carp say the Rangers have a big decision on Hank coming up? He has stated over and over Hank will be on the team next year, as their backup. He also prefers Georgiev over Shesteryn but thinks Georgiev has much higher trade value……

      Jan 14
      “ Odd indeed. Quinn said after Monday’s game, the front office and coaches will sit down and try to sort out a plan. But it’s not as if there is no plan. It’s just that they knew the situation was unavoidable, with Shesterkin earning a chance to play in the NHL with his spectacular half-season in the AHL — and with an escape clause that would allow him to go home to Russia if he felt buried in Hartford.

      I love the notion it caught the Rangers by surprise, or they didn’t think it would be a problem. In fact, I had heard they were going this way — and wrote about it — in November. It was an inevitability, even though the organization knew the situation would be less than ideal.

      I love, too, all the “news” the Rangers are listening to offers for Georgiev. Of course they are. They have been listening for a little while. They understand it can possibly go into the offseason, even though that’s not ideal, but it can’t go into next season. They shouldn’t be, and are not, in a hurry to make a bad deal for Georgiev.

      They won’t give him away. There’s no way they’re trading him for Jeremy Bracco and I’m not sure Toronto would give up Pierre Engvall or a first-rounder.”. That’s a passage from his article about their three goalie situation in his recap over the Ranger’s win over the Islanders.

      Dec 26, 2019

      “ 4. Alexandar will be great … and cause a problem

      Alexandar Georgiev is going to further establish himself as an NHL No. 1, or 1A, goaltender.

      And what that does is complicate things.

      Great problem to have, but then that means fewer starts for Lundqvist this year, and a difficult decision to make when Lundqvist enters the final season of his contract at age 38 next season and when Igor Shesterkin shows he’s NHL-ready late this season in Hartford or in camp next season.

      I think, ultimately, Georgiev or Shesterkin is traded and the survivor is backed up by Adam Huska (or Olof Lindbom) when Lundqvist retires.

      Revisited: Georgiev has done nothing to change that expectation. He has outplayed Lundqvist, as he did for the second half of last year, and he is making the Rangers’ difficult decision more difficult. I’ve written this a lot lately, but do not be surprised at all if Georgiev ends up the heir to Lundqvist and not Shesterkin. The problem with that, of course, is that the trade value of Shesterkin isn’t likely high and won’t be until he plays some NHL games. Likewise, Georgiev would have value on the market, but probably not at this point the type of value that will bring back a haul. I don’t think the Rangers could get more than a second-rounder (plus) for Georgiev right now. I don’t think they would trade him for that.

      I still think, ultimately, either Georgiev or Shesterkin is here teaming with Lundqvist next season, but not both. And Lundqvist will be here. So …” Both passages are taken directly from Carp’s work on The Athletic. The second one was a recap off his predictions from earlier in the season. So what article did Carp say the Rangers have a big decision regarding Hank?

  • January 16, 2020 at 2:49 pm
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    Torontonian’s are desperate for a winner. The cap crunch, mediocre goal tending and a weak and injured “D” put those expectations and dreams in peril. They fired an iconic coach in mid season for a reason. They are in a win now mode and are facing the prospect of not even getting to the post season. In short, they are desperate and a desperate trade partner is who Gorton should be gravitating to. Moreover, we have exactly what the Leafs need but they will have to shed salary to make it work.

    Anthony, you are dead on with this potential trade. Once their top 2 D went down and both their goalies started showing signs of regression, I began to envision this kind of trade. Much as I want to keep Georgie and would prefer to see the King gracefully step aside, it just ain’t gonna happen. He has earned the right to stay through his contract, and he is clearly intent on doing so. Don’t waste another breath wishing it were otherwise. We also face the real possibility of saying good bye to a significant contributor on offense in Kreider.

    Anthony….you are aiming too low. Georgie and Skjei for William Nylander straight up. There is talk in TO of having to trade Nylander in the off season to shed salary. They may just have to consider it now to salvage their season, while reducing their current cap. I am assuming Kreider is gone by the trade deadline and would, in fact, be replaced by Nylander with a cap hit of just under 7 mil, which we can make work this year. The difference….he is 6 years younger and equally productive. Brady’s 5+ million will pave the way for signing ADA and perhaps Strome. Given the dearth of centre prospects ready to step in, it becomes critical to retain him.

    What most don’t realize is that the Leafs need more than a backup goalie. They need someone to push Anderson and eventually replace him. He is 30 and becomes a free agent in 2021. There is no one in the wings and Georgie is only 23. They have no first round picks to offer. A second is not enough for Georgie who for the last two years has performed at the level of a first string netminder. He is regarded as fundamentally very sound and is clearly performing. Trust me, they are looking for more than a backup.

    The Leafs D is in shambles with 2 rookies added to an already porous D. Reily and Muzzin are not expected back until March. If the Leafs begin to struggle, a March recovery may be too late. The perfect storm has arrived. Gorton must be decisive and aggressive. Accept nothing less than Nylander.

    • January 16, 2020 at 3:30 pm
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      Do you think they would be interested in someone like Brady Skjei? His game has regressed over the last two years and is prone to mental mistakes on the ice like Jake Gardner. I love that deal you explained in great detail, def makes sense for the Blueshirts.

      • January 16, 2020 at 6:53 pm
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        Mike….he may not be their first choice but most recognize his mobility and size. Technically he is playing first pair minutes for the Rangers is young and cost controlled for the next several years. Tyson Barrie is earning over 5 million (half retained by the Blues) and is due for a raise when he becomes a UFA this summer. So Brady could slip into his spot because Leafs are unlikely to re-up Barrie at a 7-8 million cap hit at age 28. They simply can’t pay him.

        BSB editor and contributors gave Brady a solid B mid term rating, so in spite of his stagnation he is still reasonably well regarded. Leafs are shopping for a young 3 or 4 D man and I think he qualifies.

        • January 16, 2020 at 7:51 pm
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          i don’t fault the Leaf’s for not wanting to pay Tyson Barrie that kind of money either. Leafs window is now and wouldn’t mind them having to send salary in Nylander for Georgiev and Skjei. like you said Nylander fills the potential lose of Kreider also.

          • January 17, 2020 at 8:27 am
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            Muzzin hurt right now is UFA next year as well. Sjkei could take his place on 2nd pair left side.

            Cece is UFA next season too. He and Barry stink defensively. Skjei will look like an all star next to them.
            Toronto is in a pickle. Just a little bit… lol!

            You guys are on to something. I just wonder if it is even bigger.

  • January 16, 2020 at 6:30 pm
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    Georgiev could be a number 1 goalie in Columbus and the Rangers should accept a number one draft pick and a second rounder as well! Toronto is desperate for a backup to Anderson
    so ask for Kapanen and nothing else.

  • January 17, 2020 at 1:27 am
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    The only reason I see for trading Georgie is to make room for Lundq – which is a big mistake IMO. After his last two games vs the Isles, there is no way I would trade Georgie. Lundq can no longer be counted on – he gets less effective with each passing game. He’ll make 4 brilliant saves in a row, and then let a soft one slip right past. Next year will only be worse. If he won’t move or retire gracefully, buy a nice cushion for him to sit on so he’ll be nice and comfy while on the bench.

    • January 17, 2020 at 9:26 am
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      Agree 100%

  • January 17, 2020 at 9:24 am
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    This is a painful thing to say but it is lundqvist that needs to go. Think of the Goalie combo of Georgie and Shesterkin!!

  • January 17, 2020 at 12:23 pm
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    I’ve been a Rangers Fan since I was 5 y.o., 1970. Honestly watching Lundquist makes my Blood Boil. Like someone else mentioned, if he cannot recognize that he is NOT a King, had his chances and should just Gracefully step aside,,it would be a shame. I played Goaltender for 20+ years and to see him make the absolute Basic mistakes that he does after making BRILLIANT saves just makes me Cringe. Please Hank, go away, leave the Future to these young Men who look AWESOME,.. you no longer have what it takes.
    You HAD your opportunity and BLEW IT.

    • January 17, 2020 at 4:34 pm
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      While I agree with the Idea that Hanks time has passed and he should exit gracefully your post is basically disgusting in that he is the one that has given the rangers any chance over the years.

    • January 17, 2020 at 7:24 pm
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      He “blew it”?? Lol!! He carried teams that were way overmatched in the talent department on runs they had no business being on. While it’ll suck to lose one of these young goalies, I’m in the camp that believes he’s earned whatever he wants to do and we have a wealth of young goaltending in the pipeline that allows absorption of any unfortunate losses this year.

      • January 17, 2020 at 10:52 pm
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        If the Rangers use their hearts and not their brains, they will keep Hank. However, the right move is to send Hank somewhere he has a chance to win a Cup. To not consider keeping both young goalies makes no sense. The competition next year would be a joy to watch. It would all shake out and bring even more benefits to the Rangers. Please don’t blow this!

        • January 19, 2020 at 4:04 pm
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          What about his NMC, which he earned in spades and his open desire to finish his career in NY do people not understand? He has said it over and over again he will not reneged on his NMC. Just last year the Rangers were criticized by the same fans for trading Zucc who wanted to remain a Ranger who now criticize Hank for doing the same.

  • January 19, 2020 at 8:45 pm
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    Trading Nylander for a backup goalie will never happen. A backup goalie will only be traded for a third line winger at the most.

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